Is CEO Movement a Scam? – What You Should Know
CEO Movement sounds pretty awesome and all, but is it really? Will it really help you make money online or is CEO Movement a scam that you would be better of avoiding?
Recently I came across an ad for this place that was for a ‘100% no cost’ webclass that I could attend. It stated that I would be able to “start and grow your [my] very own social media business even if you [I] have no online experience and nothing to sell”.
If you have been on my website before then you know I make money online–but what I do is affiliate marketing through SEO–so starting my own social media business peaked an interest in me.
The webclass is free, so what do I have to lose, right?
So anyways… here is my review after learning more and looking into it further…
CEO Movement Review
The founder of this place is Rob Brautigam, who was also involved in a past online business coaching program called Project Q1, which received all sorts of scam accusations.
CEO Movement is described as an exclusive team of online business owners and “10x internet lifestyle entrepreneurs”–which consists of people at beginner, intermediate, and expert levels of online business knowledge. Basically it is a program that you can buy into that will provide you with training to make money online, a Facebook group to interact with other members, and the automated system they have in place to make money (*if you want to make money promoting the same system to others).
There are also expensive ‘mastermind’ events (like many ‘make money online’ programs now offer) that you can attend around the world.
How It Works – What They Don’t Tell You
It all starts out with an email or an ad of some kind. Usually people promote the free webclass webinar. This is how it started for me.
They tell you that you don’t have to buy anything and that they “don’t hold anything back”, but as we all know these free webinars are used to lure people into buying products/service.
There are many different webinars and sales funnels floating around the internet out there. I’ve signed up and watched 2 different ones just to see what was going on and any differences. They may differ some but they all are the same basic thing and have the same basic structure.
In the webinar I was watching the spokesman talked about the process of making money with what CEO Movement teaches its members. The way it works is like this…
First you advertise a product/service/opportunity on Facebook (this is the main traffic generation method used), then you direct people to a page to sign up for something free (like a webinar with free info), then there is a ‘thank you’ page, after that the person gets pitched the “irresistable” offer during the sales video and when they buy whatever it is that you are pitching you get paid…
HOWEVER, what they don’t tell you is that when you are watching the ‘free’ webinar you are in their sales funnel at that point. At that point you have already signed up by giving your name and email–and you are about to get pitched an “irresistable” offer, which in this case is to join CEO Movement.
It’s a Cycle
Like many of the “make money online” opportunities that exist out there, this place is largely focused on getting people to join, selling them on expensive training and what not, then getting them to go out and do the same–rinse and repeat.
It is true that what you learn here could be applied to just about any online business. The Facebook advertising techniques, the sales funnel approach–this stuff could be used to make money online in many different ways and you could venture out on your own and give it a try–BUT the bottom line is that they want you to promote the system and if you join you will find this out.
There is a Facebook page called Is the CEO Movement a SCAM? that is dedicated to exposing this program as a scam and on the page there are some posts that show messages back and forth between someone looking to join and one of the ‘coaches’.
As you can see below, I’m not making this stuff up. The focus here is obviously on selling the opportunity to live a dream life and then getting those who buy in to do the same–hopefully making enough money to live a dream life by selling the opportunity to live a dream life–scammy isn’t it?
What You Get as a Member
If you attended any of the webinars out there you likely heard a lot of talk about being able to use their automated system, but they likely left out a lot of key information.
The automated system that they are talking about, which you will get access to as a member, is the sales funnel system to get people to join CEO Movement. This entire ‘automated system’ that they are talking about is for making money selling the opportunity. So if you wanted to go in a different direction and use what you learn here to sell your own product or whatnot, you are out of luck.
Of course you are going to get access to training. You will be shown how to do every step of the advertising process, such as…
- how to market and sell their top product picks
- how to find a target audience
- how to use Facebook ads
However, there won’t be much of any focus or training on creating sales funnels or key parts of marketing in this area.
Well, because they are counting on you selling the system to other people and using their automated system that is already in place. Sure, this is easier because it requires less work from you, but it’s undoubtedly a bit on the scammy side.
Facebook Group Access
You will get access to a private FB group where you can interact with other members. I love this idea and am really glad they included it here–just because it allows you to connect with others through a 3rd party, meaning you will be able to talk freely (maybe not directly within the group, but you can always reach out to other members directly since you will know them).
Masterminds have become popular with educational “make money online” programs–as they are here.
Members get access to weekly masterminds, which as far as I know can be focused on pretty much any topic related to online marketing.
This might be a bit misleading, because the “coaches” are often a little pushy and may even seem to be a bit more like salespeople.
You will be able to receive help, but most of the help will be provided getting you to promote the system.
I’m not completely sure how often live events are held, but they do have live events all over the world and with a pro membership you get access to everything.
Commission Structure (Compensation Plan)
A lot of the information about how this all works they keep pretty private, so I had to do a good bit of digging around to try to find out more.
What CEO Movement has is what is called a 2-tier affiliate structure, which means that you can get paid commissions from the products that your personal recruits buy (tier 1) and from the products that their recruits buy (tier 2).
So if you recruit in Joe and he goes out and recruits in Susan, you will earn commissions from both.
I don’t know the exact commission percentages you earn, but it’s obviously going to be much less for the second tier members than for those you personally recruit in on the first tier.
Cost to Join
So… if you watched one of the webinars you may have been led to believe that the cost is only $99. This is the initial cost but there is more than this.
In the webinar that I watched the spokesman specifically said that once I buy in I would not be upsold on any more expensive products–however this is not the case and is a complete lie.
Once you buy in for $99 on the frontend you will be upsold–and you will be upsold hard.
Appartently there are products that you will get upsold on that cost over $7k. The message below was also posted on the one Facebook page that I mentioned earlier…
What you have to do is purchase each product at least one time. Well, you don’t have to, but you will certainly be encouraged to do so because once you purchase the more expensive products you will get the ‘licensing rights’ to resell those products, meaning you can sell them and earn commissions.
Members aren’t making big commissions getting people to join for $99. This is small. The upsells that come later are where they earn the big commissions and if you want to earn these commissions you have to buy the products first–even if you don’t want to.
Money Back Guarantee
On the $99 front-end membership product they have a 14 day money back guarantee. The other expensive 1-time purchase products come with a 7 day money back guarantee.
On the refund policy page it sounds pretty easy to get your money back. They call it a “no questions asked” refund policy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it is harder to get your money back than they make it seem.
I’ve run into similar programs like this before and they often only let you get a refund “IF” (an only if) you have tried and it didn’t work. This means that you must have went through the training, joined the Facebook group, and did everything to try to get it to work. However, I’m not sure with this particular program–maybe it is easy to get a refund.
Okay, so let’s do a quick recap of what we are looking at here and put it all together.
- CEO Movement is pretty much your typical high-ticket “make money online” program
- They lure people in for $99 and then upsell them on products that cost thousands of $$$–which you have to buy if you want to earn commissions selling them
- While you can apply what you learn here to other online businesses, you will be pushed to promote CEO Movement to others
- It’s a cycle–you buy in wanting to make money online and then are pushed to make money online by getting others to buy in, who are also looking to make money online
- The commission structure is 2-tiered, meaning you earn from your recruitss and their recruits
Digital Altitude, Aspire, Super Affiliate Network, etc.–these are all very similar high-ticket programs and there are plenty of others out there.
*By the way, Digital Altitude and MOBE have been shut down for being scams.
Conclusion – Scam or Not?
While I’m not going to call this a scam because there is a lot of value being provided with what you get when you buy in, I think we can all agree that what’s going on here isn’t exactly all that honest and legitimate.
Just think about it for a second… people are being lured in with the hopes and dreams of making big money online. Much of the details are left out early on, because if people knew what was really going on then many probably wouldn’t buy in. Then after they buy in they are pushed to get others to buy in and are upsold on expensive products that they will be able to resell for large commissions.
Yes you can make money with this. Yes, I’m sure there are people making over $10k per month like you have heard–but is this something worth getting involved in?
Anyhow, I’m not going to be promoting this program on my website here, but I’ll let you make your own decision as to whether or not you should join. I hope you enjoyed this review and found it helpful.
If you are looking for a personal recommendation from me then I would highly suggest taking a look at this program that I use to make over $6k per month online. I got started here in 2015 and am still a member, which says a lot.
Alternatively you can take a look at my top income ideas for making money from home.
Take care and thanks for reading! Be sure to leave any comments or questions below. I like to hear back from my readers 🙂